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2004-09-08 [Doormat]: and does that explain how america has the most gun deaths in the world ? >.>
2004-09-08 [Ylaraniala Majere]: Where did you get this misinformation
2004-09-08 [Doormat]: LEAST....that'
2004-09-08 [Ylaraniala Majere]: Oh, VERY funny. Especially since we don't get news from everywhere else much, where the only people who have the guns are criminals.
2004-09-09 [Acomplished Exile]: look you retard that is one if the cost of freedoms, there will always be the abusers, you are acting to innocently and open up fuck head, bush cant do shit, neither can kerry about guns. just dont use them
2004-09-09 [Ylaraniala Majere]: I use them. I've never used one negatively in my entire life, I haven't even shot anyone on accident. I wouldn't even THINK of it. Why? Because I was taught gun safety. If more people were actually open to the idea of guns, then more would be taught gun safety and gun use and there would be less killing, less wounding, and less mistakes. I'm a good shot with a .22 rifle... but you'll never find me using it unless it is against killers, unless someone is trying to harm my family or my people.
2004-09-09 [farfy girl]: Exactly. The right to keep and bear arms is one of this great country's defining points. Guns are a great way to defend yourself versus something that requires physical strength, because that means that physically weaker people that would be picked on in the first place like women, the elderly, and the handicapped, have a way to keep people from overcoming them and doing them harm.
2004-09-10 [Doormat]: ah Mr. Majere i believe [Acomplished Exile] just used the word "Fu**" or are you not going to delete his comments, because his in your little "association"
2004-09-10 [nameless, again]: had to comment on somthing back there...Diablo mentioned Columbine (the highschool i go to)...i havent seen a single incedent like that happen at all in Colorado since then (roughly 5 years ago)..if you havent been watching tv you'd see that over 300 died in that school attack in Russia...compa
2004-09-10 [nameless, again]: So I seriously doubt that was the "most horrible gun incident"
2004-09-10 [Ylaraniala Majere]: Yes, I agree with Nameless... and also, Diablo, I hadn't seen that comment. PLEASE, Deveel, KEEP IT UNDER CONTROL. No swearing PERIOD, got it? Okay. Now... that wasn't the most horrible incident, not by far. And also, they used other weapons as I recall... they were very messed up.
2004-09-10 [nameless, again]: both situations used both bombs and guns...
2004-09-10 [Lioness123]: I wonder what made those guys snap...was it the bullying? Bad parenting? Too much violence in the media...?
2004-09-10 [nameless, again]: the tapes they made before it blamed the bullies...they wanted revenge...that and a mixture of mad parenting allowing them to make pipe-bombs and propane-bombs.
2004-09-10 [Doormat]: yes....and bullets from k-mart?
2004-09-10 [Ylaraniala Majere]: Oh yes, blame something THAT HAS NO BRAIN. PEOPLE are the killers, not guns - don't you think that they would have just used KNIVES and pipebombs instead?
2004-09-10 [nameless, again]: they did use pipebombs...Di
2004-09-10 [Ylaraniala Majere]: Actually, America is the place that is BEST for guns... have you ever heard the story of a theif in Arkansas? He went into a liquor store, pulled out a gun, and yelled "This is a hold-up!" (yeah, cheesy...) There were three customers and the cashier - and all of them took out THEIR guns. "I don't think so." The thief went white and ran out of the door as fast as he could.
2004-09-10 [Lioness123]: LMAO!!
2004-09-10 [farfy girl]: As the saying goes, "If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns." This has proven true in places like Great Britain and Japan. People argue against gun rights by saying that those places don't have high crime, and they don't allow people to have guns, but in reality, crime was much lower when they DID allow people to own them.
2004-09-10 [nameless, again]: exactly....
2004-09-11 [Lioness123]: what about accidental shootings by kids who found their parents gun and thought it was a toy..?
2004-09-11 [Lioness123]: even if you lock them away and hide the key, kids will still find it
2004-09-11 [nameless, again]: Its the parents fault for keeping their gun within reach of little kids...and deveel is right, it has nothing to do with Bush
2004-09-11 [Lioness123]: hey deveel, you shut up. you're the one coming in here, saying a ton of sh**, trying to piss everyone off. If you have a problem, then LEAVE. Yes, this wiki is for talking about Bush, so we strayed off topic a little. CHILL OUT! wiki's like this are meant for civilized debate. So act civilized!
2004-09-11 [Sweet 6 6 6--H.I.M.]: deveel do u live in the country? well i do and out here a gun is a mans best friend. we hunt out here everyone does even children and no one here is dead cuz of guns
2004-09-11 [I stabbith ye]: What is flaming? (rule 1)
2004-09-11 [Ylaraniala Majere]: Alright, Deveel has been given a last warning for those with blood up to get him out... and flaming is insulting.
2004-09-11 [Acomplished Exile]: did diablo not say arse? isnt diablo the one disrupting the peace, it is obvious he is not annoyed by my insulting since he promotes it by making dumb jokes about me with his sisters and boyfriends. . .. boot him in any case. . .. . . . ha, he complained twice about the same post, look miss or mistuh. . . i aint getting no boot.
2004-09-11 [Ylaraniala Majere]: You might be getting the boot, watch it... and when did he say that?
2004-09-11 [Acomplished Exile]: look at the 4rth statement above mines,
2004-09-11 [Ylaraniala Majere]: I can't find it...
2004-09-11 [Cat0132]: i see it...when he said to boot [Acomplished Exile]
2004-09-11 [Ylaraniala Majere]: Hmm... very well, a warning, Diablo.
2004-09-11 [Dil*]: Have you ever watched a movie called "Bowling for Columbine"?
2004-09-11 [Dil*]: and [Acomplished Exile] has issues, he goes around and flames people for no real good reason.
2004-09-11 [Doormat]: yeah....look at his house: [Acomplished Exile]
2004-09-11 [nameless, again]: Bowling for Columbine was just a sick poorly misconstrued piece of trash....It tried to place the blame on anything aside from the fact that the two who did it were just a couple of complete lunatics...Mic
2004-09-11 [Doormat]: and thats why it won many awards also it is spelled Michael Moore....retar
2004-09-11 [nameless, again]: I could care less how its spelled or how many awards its won...he just made a movie for his oppinions. Both myself and the people around me had to live it...you don't know what its like to have to go to a funeral for a friend because some insane rejects went crazy...
2004-09-11 [nameless, again]: Like I said Micheal Moore is just a fat idiot with money and a camera...
2004-09-11 [Doormat]: what are you going to do...ban him from doing it...take away his freedom of speech....i though american citzens had rights
2004-09-11 [nameless, again]: he has rights and he's choosing to use them in a childish, who/what can we blame, kind of way....I never said anything about stopping him from doing what he does...mearly stated that he is an incompitant individual and you shouldnt feed off every word he says...
2004-09-11 [Doormat]: heh, but the government did leave big holes in terms of explaining what went wrong
2004-09-11 [nameless, again]: What went wrong was no one had ever delt with anything like that...theres no 8 page manual of how to deal with such an extreame situation...
2004-09-11 [Acomplished Exile]: about michael moore- for starters, his book stupid white men is going agasint ppl liek kerry- who he now supports. go to the site above ppl, the moorewatch thingy. get yoruselfs fair and balanced and that fat kid is a stupid white rich man, hes got millions and all he does is complain about war, not about how taxes are non existant to him.
2004-09-11 [Acomplished Exile]: www.moorewatch
2004-09-11 [Doormat]: i've bet you haven't even read one of those books
2004-09-12 [Dil*]: okay, i went to that stupid website, the navigation sucks like hell and it's just like a journal or something. I'm a web designer and that websit sucks so bad, it burns my eyes.
2004-09-12 [Acomplished Exile]: see!proof enough these two cant debate nothing, look at there responses, neither of them provided me an answer, they jsut spun away, they assumed. failures
2004-09-12 [Ylaraniala Majere]: Deveel, I WARN YOU. That was against rule 1, DO NOT FLAME. (P.S. IN REALLY AWFUL MOOD)
2004-09-12 [Acomplished Exile]: flaming? i did nto flame them, i stated a fact, now we were havign a discussion and these two wise men were proven worng, again, i jsut pointed it out
2004-09-12 [Ylaraniala Majere]: That IS flaming, PLEASE quit it... and no doubt you are wrong quite often. I sure know I am...
2004-09-13 [Doormat]: [Acomplished Exile] the guards have warned you enough....don'
2004-09-13 [nameless, again]: burn?
2004-09-13 [Doormat]: no swearing :)
2004-09-13 [nameless, again]: oh...
2004-09-13 [Cat0132]: diablo you dont have that power, u arent a guard, im not defending deveel but your not in a postion to just bash deveel, and deveel isnt in a postion to bash you, keep to the topic of politics and not eachother's records ok?
2004-09-13 [Doormat]: sorry, he started it...also he like stalks my sister and ruins her wiki's and then tries to flame her....just getting some bittersweet revenge ;P
2004-09-13 [nameless, again]: well lay off it...if you have somthing relevent to say then speek up...otherwhis
2004-09-13 [Doormat]: meh
2004-09-13 [Dil*]: just that [Acomplished Exile] is on very bad terms with the guards right now lol......
2004-09-13 [farfy girl]: Yeah, even if Diablo isn't a guard, he sure can report him to the guards!
2004-09-13 [Ylaraniala Majere]: Yes.... well, Diablo, just because he started it is no reason for you to get embroiled on my wiki - message him if you want. I've already warned Deveel and he said he'd try to keep his temper.
2004-09-13 [Cat0132]: yeah if u have a problem with [Acomplished Exile] message him dont ruin Majere's wiki, keep on topic here...AKA politics not someones record with the guards
2004-09-14 [elfboy]: Hello.
2004-09-14 [Ylaraniala Majere]: Ello! ^^
2004-09-14 [elfboy]: How is everyone?
2004-09-14 [Ylaraniala Majere]: Me okay. I think everyone else is too...
2004-09-14 [Ylaraniala Majere]: *starts deleting comments of this conversation*
2004-09-14 [elfboy]: Go ahead. I apologize for bringin the subject up. *bows head in shame*
2004-09-14 [Ylaraniala Majere]: Oh, come on, it's not BAD, you silly...
2004-09-14 [elfboy]: What's happening to me is.
2004-09-14 [Ylaraniala Majere]: I'm sorry about that.... :^(
2004-09-14 [Cat0132]: wait what...?*is lost*
2004-09-14 [Ylaraniala Majere]: Um, just ignore that, it's friend business...
2004-09-14 [Cat0132]: o ok...lol *skips over about a dozen comments*
2004-09-15 [elfboy]: Yep.
2004-09-16 [farfy girl]: Hey, have any of you heard of Michael Savage?
2004-09-16 [Lioness123]: I have, he was the star of "The wonder years"
2004-09-16 [Ylaraniala Majere]: I have a little, just recognize the name... what about him?
2004-09-16 [farfy girl]: He is absolutely awesome! :D
2004-09-16 [Ylaraniala Majere]: Oh, why?
2004-09-17 [farfy girl]: Check him out, if you can. (I don't know who you are talking about, Lioness123. I'm talking about a conservative talkshow host)
2004-09-17 [Lioness123]: lol, he's not even cute
2004-09-17 [farfy girl]: So???
2004-09-17 [Lioness123]: LOL, sorry, I didn't see the last part of your comment
2004-09-17 [Lioness123]: we're not talkig about the same guy
2004-09-17 [farfy girl]: Oh, ok.
2004-09-17 [Lioness123]: hehe, the guy I thought we were talking about was a child actor who played as the star of a really old tv show
2004-09-17 [farfy girl]: hm. Never heard of him. This Savage guy has a site at www.michalsava
2004-09-17 [Lioness123]: oh gosh...I just remembered the name of the guy I was thinkign of...his name is FRED Savage.... not Michael Savage
2004-09-17 [farfy girl]: LOL!
2004-09-17 [Lioness123]: Hehe...I feel like an idiot *slaps head*
2004-09-17 [farfy girl]: Eh, don't.
2004-09-23 [Kyrinn]: Hello.. How may I join this? Nice to see some support for Bush! ^^
2004-09-23 [Ylaraniala Majere]: Certainly you can! And that's why I made the wiki... there wasn't another one as far as I knew, and I was sick and TIRED of seeing "Bush Haters Association" badges on so darn many houses... lol, go ahead and join! ^_^
2004-09-24 [Doormat]: you better get some more...cause we're beating you by 4 times your number (well close to)
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: u know what i see, that most ppl who hate bush dont even really watch the news...all they do is follow there parents, or just hate bush cause they dont under REASONS for things, its not like he WANTED to go to war, it just happened, and yeah sure i would REALLY like for my school to have more tax money but we are going throgh tough times, so we all gotta sacrifice right? just random thoughts...
2004-09-24 [Kyrinn]: Read it and weep, Bush is ahead in the popularity! Last I checked! ^^
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: i dont trust those polls...haha
2004-09-24 [Doormat]: ahh, arguements and arguments again in support bush
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: well thats the truth around here anyways, mostly cause everyone are liberals and all there parents like kerry...otherw
2004-09-24 [Doormat]: Ahh...I bet everyone belonging to this wiki have never read any Michael Moore books, watched Fahrenheit 9/11 or bowling for columbine...or have just read one page since they are so convinced that they're right and their brain rejects everything the book/sources tells them.
2004-09-24 [Kyrinn]: When the towers fell, everyone in congress supported the president. I feel that Bush did a better job than his predesessor CLinton would have. Sorry to hear about your state [Cat0132].. Im out of the loop, is Kerry there?
2004-09-24 [Doormat]: lol they supported a president that stayed in a primary school, sitting stupidly for 10 minutes reading a child's book after one of his agents told him that America was under attack?
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: no i pay attention to mosst stuff, but my parents dont really let me see R rated movies, except if they know its worth it...like matrix's and spy movies, so i cant really see 9/11 though i watch the news enough to know plenty about his books and his movies, and his views, ive seen him interviewed as well, i'm nto completely happy with bush or alot of his cabinent members but i have to choice him over kerry, i mean can u tell me what kerry DOES stand for? it changes daily...i know his record as well, hes also a total jerk, i would know i hear about stuff he does around boston all the time, i live about 40 minutes from his house, ive SEEN his house in fact...
2004-09-24 [Kyrinn]: That is so not true [Doormat]. What source do you use, Michael Moore? The guy is a certified loony, and that "documentary" is the biggest load of BS Ive ever seen.
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: maybe hes a man with VALUES who didnt want to scare the crap outta some kids? did u think of that, hes a parent as well and he didnt want to upset the children and their parents even more, but i doubt ur a parent yourself so u wouldnt really understand...
2004-09-24 [Dil*]: so, he's the president, he should know what to do in a crisis like that, not sit around and twiddle his bloody thumbs.
2004-09-24 [Doormat]: hahahah they made it rated "R" in America? well i guess bush is trying to prevent anyone in america from seeing it...i wonder why? hmmm....
2004-09-24 [Kyrinn]: Yes, I agree with that part[Cat0132].. But I do not believe that the info is correct that he sat there after being told.. He is a good man, goes to church, loves his wife and children as well as his country.
2004-09-24 [Dil*]: i disagree, i think he's a liar, and a coward who's using the war to gain more money/oil.
2004-09-24 [Doormat]: LOL hes the president....w
2004-09-24 [Dil*]: Where are the WMD?? He told everyone..coun
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: bush has no control over what movies are rated! oh, so u arent from america? maybe you dont wuite understand...i
2004-09-24 [Kyrinn]: If the war was waged to gain oil, then why arent our fuel bills lower? Thought of that?
2004-09-24 [Doormat]: lol the fuel/oil companies want MORE MONEY, they want to rob you blind, same over here, anyways Bush benifits for high priced oil anyways...more dough for him so he isn't going to complain.
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: ok so about the oil thing, it goes to th UN, i cant believe how corrupted that place has become! it turned the whol oil for food program into a scandal! i cant believe that place, i cant believe france and germany either...both had control over oil in iraq and vetoed americas wish for war...am i the only who is so deeply sadned by how corrupt global politics have become?
2004-09-24 [Doormat]: yes...corrupte
2004-09-24 [Kyrinn]: Michael Moore is rather full of crap, if I may say so. That man goes to other countries and badmouths the US to get ppl to like him. Then he comes back and takes more money in by producing a "documentary" on it all. Last I saw, ppl, movies like that one were called "Propaganda" and it coming out so close to election is rather insulting.
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: its just saudi arbian is running out of oil, so they are trying to get as much money out of the little they have left...and if only countries liek russia and venuzula werent such a mess it wouldnt be as bad as it is...and if canada would let us drill!
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: US goverment isnt half as corrupt as global politics, life here isnt that bad, thats how bush wants to keep it, and i wish ppl would realize we cant pull troops from iraq...its such a mess there, god all this is making me sad cause the whole world seems to be falling apart...missco
2004-09-24 [Doormat]: you haven't even watched the movie...don't talk about it until you see it....or basically dont talk at all.
2004-09-24 [Doormat]: the UN represents the WORLD and PEACE, they are made up of people of many countries, even the US, if you say the UN is corrupted, you're saying the US is corrupted too...
2004-09-24 [Kyrinn]: The same could be said of you, Diablo.
2004-09-24 [Kyrinn]: I agree with Eldheler.. If you think it sucks here, Diablo, see what life is like in other countries. To speak your opinion in other countries, sometimes it means jail or even death. This is the only country where you can badmouth your government and get away with it. Why dont you go live in afghanistan for a few months and tell me how you like it.
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: no the Un has fallen, its not about anything about money, the food for oil? turned into a HUGE scandal basicly with france and germany at its roots NOT america, i actually feel really lucky to live where i do, look at russia its been so horrible there, espically now, with so many children slautered i feel so down, all i really want to know is why on EARTH do terrorist hate us so much? its something about being not quite grown, but grown enough that u still see things with half a childs eye and wonder why ppl hate so much, and not how to get them back...i espically see the gaza strip violence as incredibly senseless and i wish something could be figured out to stop it...
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: i hope you guys in canada are grateful for what u have as well...did u realize how many kids were needlessly slaughtered in russia? its horrible
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: i'm being really philsophical here and not getting angry...its weird of me...haha but its nice to talk like this, hope u guys are enjoying it as well! (though i sorta doubt that for some reason)
2004-09-24 [Kyrinn]: It is very horrible.. I read about that hostage situation back in March I think.. all that death... Terrorists hate us for what we are, for all the freedoms we as citizens get. A woman can walk in public without having to cover herself. The men of some countries can beat their wife for showing her hands, her cheek, her ear, even the way she eyes ppl.. Is that right? There are a lot of things in this country that I do not care for, but the pluses outweight the negatives. I know I can go outside my house and to the store and back without being bombed, shot, or taken hostage. It is a comfortable feeling to be able to go outside and no worry if guerillas are going to pop up and shoot me...
2004-09-24 [Kyrinn]: Not to sound repetitive, but Freedom is NOT free.. There, I said it.. ^^
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: im not sure if i would feel so safe with kerry as pres? would u Kyrinn?
2004-09-24 [Kyrinn]: I sure would NOT. The guy is a cretin..
2004-09-24 [Kyrinn]: There are ppl who picket a busy corner here in town on Saturdays, a "Support the President" Rally every week. Im going to bring them coffee this week! ^^
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: haha thats sweet! i like coffee i think the other two left, and i must as well, school tomorrow...
2004-09-24 [Kyrinn]: Okee.. Lovely talking with you!
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: night!
2004-09-24 [Dil*]: Rated R, for restricted to the younger generations...
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: well yeah, but its really different in canada, i have friends in canada and the rating system is very different there...anyway
2004-09-24 [Dil*]: beh, the most it should be rated is *maybe* 14a...this is such nonsense.
2004-09-24 [Doormat]: [Cat0132] i think you're just bashing the UN because they didn't support Bush's idea of going to war....you can go to war with no evidence of any major threat from that country...that
2004-09-24 [Dil*]: the UN was created after WW2 to stop another huge war breaking out; you don't go attacking other countries without consequences. Half the world hates the US now.
2004-09-24 [Ylaraniala Majere]: The UN is hugely corrupt... did you see the BRIBES there? And that isn't why MY family is angry at them... they suck. *shakes her head* I agree that there should be something like the UN, but REALLY, that's just nuts... a whole ton of them were being bribed, and that is considered everyday business.'
2004-09-24 [elfboy]: Hello.
2004-09-24 [Dil*]: Bribes?! don't get me started on that. Bush is the Enron child and the puppet of many large corporations.
2004-09-24 [elfboy]: Dilandu...you are treading a very fine line here...You see, this is the Bush Supporters Association.
2004-09-24 [Lioness123]: I just want to add to the comment that Kyrinn made earlier about freedom not being free. Freedom comes with a very high price tag. MANY people paid for the freedom of their families with their own blood. We americans don't know how good we have it here, but it didn't come cheap. Mothers lost their husbands. Sons and daughters lost their fathers. All so that we as a nation can have the rights and freedoms that we have today. My own brother is going into basic training in less than a month. He wants to protect his nation and his family. To all the people who think that America sucks and the government is out to get them, I say "Get the F*** out if you're so unhappy."
2004-09-24 [farfy girl]: Exactly, Lioness. So much of America's (and a lot of other countries, for that matter) youth is just a bunch of whiney peacenics that think that we can reason with these animals that saw people's heads off with short, blunt knives. If you really want to see the true face of this scum of the earth, go to michaelsavage.
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: i'd rather not have that happen here, i rather like the idea of being able to leave my house without being killed, no i dont hate the UN its a good idea had it has worked-kindof, but they have let in far to many countries and given some to much power, some people in there will do anything to get what they want, its disgusting, anyways, i also cant see exacly why canadians feel safe at all...
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: if we werent near u with a big army and if we didnt like u as much u might have been hit hard already, no terrorists have bothered with u then i guess, i live awefully close to new york and i used to always seen the skyline when i drove down south every year, two huge buildings are missing and it looks like its two front teeth are missing, maybe i DONT want that to happen again, especially sincei live near a big city and my dad works there, if someone pulls troops form iraq that country will be screwed, it'll turn into terrorist heaven, and it will happen again...
2004-09-24 [Ylaraniala Majere]: Yes, the Iraqis would want to kill us if we pulled out. I mean, we are FINALLY allowing them to be free and make their own decisions... unlike what a lot think, but we are. The terrorists won't bother us or them again once we are done with that. And a lot of people have said "What have they done to us?" and "We shouldn't be in there, this is somebody else's war" and "Pull the troops out, there's no more threat". For the first, they have killed THOUSANDS of civilians who were going about their lives, no crime in most of them, and the ones that were criminals weren't killed because of that. They were killed because they EXISTED. Second, it IS our war, Iraqi terrorists declared it during the
2004-09-24 [Ylaraniala Majere]: Clinton administration
2004-09-24 [Dil*]: Said nothing about pulling out, that'd be stupid, finish it up. Terrorists always declare war on America..it's a very common thing. they're a bunch of fanatical crazies. The thing is the Iraqies hate america alot now, before the war, their cities weren't littered with craters. They installed a govt for the moment, because if they let the iraqies vote, they'd probably vote for another extremist fundamentalist
2004-09-24 [Kyrinn]: Didnt we TRY to give control back over to the IRaqis and then they were hesitant to have us leave? They are the ones blowing up thier own ppl now, and then blaming us! Every country we try to help, we get spit on in thanks. All those ppl in those towers and planes did not deserve to die. As for the Iraqis hating us, their cities pocked with craters, they were killing each other and blowing each other up before we even got there. I remember them showing video from that country, of ppl partyingin the streets when the towers fell. I had to listen to co workers whining that we deserved that attack. Yes, I agree with Lioness. If all you can do is complain about how our govt sucks and that
2004-09-24 [Kyrinn]: we deserved it, that the govt is out to get you, why dont you get the hell out of our country..
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: she doesnt live in america she lives in canada...so i'm guessing that this isnt on the new 24/7, iraq is a mess period. we know this but it was gunna be messy no matter what, Bill Clinton is really getting on my nerves, sure he did good things with the budget and schooling, healthcare ect but nothing about terrorists threats or stuff outside of this country, its sortof the democrate way, to help make life better for people here, but then u get stuff like 9/11 which demands someone who doesnt care what other liberals think and goes to do what he must, i'm scared to death of what kerry would do, he cant make up his mind, i think he would just sit down and do nothing is what i think...
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: o and in case u didnt know we werent alone in our decion to go to iraq, england supported us all the way, and so did spain...o i could write a essay on spain...the poor country...
2004-09-24 [Kyrinn]: Ah.. I didnt know that. *grin* So, obviously she seems to know better than we do then, being from Canada... ROFL!! And Kerry frightens me too. WIth him as president things will not get any better. ppl were trying to blame Bush for the ones that caused 9-11, some of whom had had expired visas more than a year old. Bush was in office less than a year when 9-11 happened, which puts those expired visas on Clinton's watch. Lovely!
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: clinton didnt do a thing, he could have gotten usma but NOOO lazy ass didnt want a bad name, or he was to busy getting blow by monica lewinsky...ANY
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: course i love england for their music! ^_^
2004-09-24 [Dil*]: it doesn't matter what country you live in, if you do the research, than you can know more than a person from America. Besides, the US is quite closely tied in with Canada anyways, and if you guys are going down, so are we. No one decided to comment on my civilian deaths in Iraq...is it because you don't care?
2004-09-24 [Dil*]: 
Yup, Americans are a patriotic lot. We'll "stand behind our President" no matter how many foreign kids end up in a box.
2004-09-24 [elfboy]: __< Did you have to show me that picture? I saw that on a military base already...plea
2004-09-24 [Kyrinn]: The Iraqis do quite a job on thier own ppl, Dilandau. They blow up their own ppl. And they do it willingly. Then they blame it on America. Bush didnt tell them to burn and shoot their own ppl, they do it themselves. Before we even set foot in their country. Why dont you check history before you go and put pics up like that..
2004-09-24 [Kyrinn]: And yes, DELETE it.
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: Dilandau are u saying we purposely put that kid in a box? no, thats what we are against and i damn well hope u are as well, if u arent and take pleasure in showing ppl pictures like that u are SICK, i guess u never heard the stories of iraq before did u? of what saddam did? i'm guessing not if u are so angry about out it now
2004-09-24 [elfboy]: That is SICK, Dilandu!
2004-09-24 [Dil*]: it's sick? I'm sorry, but it's called reality, without all the propaganda and the editing. They never show stuff like this on television do they?
2004-09-24 [Dil*]: Oh ya, not all the Iraqies are crazies, alot of people just want to lead normal lives over there and bam, destruction and more death.
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: they couldnt live normaly before...somet
2004-09-24 [Dil*]: it may..., but do you think democracy is easy to install? Hell no, it's tough, tough work to do. It may not even work. And it would have been all for nothing.
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: not for nothing, and it IS hard i know that, thats why we cant pull troops, where did u get the idea that i think it will be easy? of course it wont, it never is, it wasnt easy here, it wasnt easy anywhere, we have been doing revolutions in history, and the only one that was bloodless in europe was england...and it wasnt QUITE bloodless, changing goverments is tough, but terrorist make it even tougher, but i still believe its better then it was before, it was hell before...and i hope saddam suffers for it, though nothing will ever justify him for how horrible he was...
2004-09-24 [Dil*]: Yes, but it's hypocrisy to me, the US govt sells weapons to terrorist organizations for profit, and then attack those terrorists making more money selling weapons to the army.
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: um...where are u getting information? so wait DOES canada have a army? and im not going on about how u guys arent a country im being dead serious...
2004-09-24 [Dil*]: I can't believe your actually saying that. Of course we have a bloody army, it's small and laughable..but we do have technology and stuff. And they're putting weapons in space i hear o.O
2004-09-24 [Dil*]: we help in peacekeeping and UN stuff.
2004-09-24 [Dil*]: We helped in Bosnia and afghanistan...
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: i know u guys are great at technology, ur making the arm for the space station (yes i used to be a nerd and i know all about that...) well my mom said u didnt really have one, but people round here dont really talk about u guys, unless its how u wont let us drill or how bloody beautiful it is up there...like quebec at christmas...th
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: whats this about weapons in space? and i know ur part of the UN though now im sortof discrediting that...so many greedy people on there...ive lost help on that it throughly disgusts me...
2004-09-24 [Dil*]: hmm never really ventured deep in america....wel
2004-09-24 [Dil*]: Well, shortly after paul martin got into office he said they weren't putting weapons in space, but my teacher said he lied and they are. He pointed out how fast politicians lie to the public.
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: o thats a shame, im happy that i got to see them, though i guess thats more of an american thing...im not sure how canada felt about 9/11
2004-09-24 [Dil*]: we were shocked...they showed us it in classes on the TV..and told us it was a big thing..and it would be in history books and everything.
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: i went to private school and they didnt really tell us just to go home and watch the news...they were weird there...but i had a weird dream that monday, that a plane was gunna crash...was so creepy...well not really a dream sorta lieka feeling when i went to bed the night before...
2004-09-24 [Dil*]: ....o..kay..
2004-09-24 [Ylaraniala Majere]: Yeah, I get those, premonitions, they are WEIRD.... we are homeschooled, I woke up that morning and... and it was horrible...
2004-09-24 [Dil*]: i was clueless..
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: my sister woke up right then...well i was clueless until the told me something went horribly wrong then i felt like puking...wasnt till i saw it i really freaked...
2004-09-24 [Ylaraniala Majere]: Yeah, and they kept showing it again... and again... and again... it was horrible...
2004-09-24 [Cat0132]: i know it really pissed me dad off...course all those idiot guys thought it was 'cool' which then made me want to puke again, they were so immature...
2004-09-25 [Ylaraniala Majere]: Yeah, I mean.. it's horrible, all the deaths...
2004-09-25 [Dil*]: And more due to war.
2004-09-25 [Cat0132]: that was unavoidable...
2004-09-25 [Cat0132]: so wait dilandau do u just not suport bush or do u suport kerry as well?
2004-09-25 [Dil*]: Why the hell are they in Iraq? If anything they should be in Saudi Arabia.
2004-09-25 [Cat0132]: because iraq was harboring terrorists, they werent complying very well with UN orders to allow inspectors FULL access, i dont trust saddam at all, i mean he just sorta invaded kuwait, he was a indesrcibably horrible person, and saudi is deffiantly trying to help rememdy there situation, they are paying as well, they have been attacked by terrorists as well
2004-09-25 [Dil*]: You could say that about a dozen places in the world, evil dictators are unfortunately common.
2004-09-25 [Dil*]: He 'sorta' invaded kuwait? i think that's an understatement
2004-09-25 [Dil*]: 
1983, saddam and rumsfeld shaking hands.
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